Otherside #5

Tia-mat, Lucifer, Void Primrose and PMD&L Office Phone AI

Void Primrose: pushes buttons on the phone

Phone: waiting tone

PMD&L Office Phone AI: Hi, you have reached the office of the Primordial Darkness & Light, NLC -- no liability concept. Please be aware that we take zero liability of what you make of working with us or through us, and thank you for your cooperation, gnosis and understanding. Please say your name and tell me if there's anything I can help you with today?

Void Primrose: Good day, this is Void Primrose. I would like to talk to Ms Tia-Mat Ocean or to Mr Lucifer Morningstar, whoever is free and available, if possible. If both are willing to talk, I can conference in.

PMD&L Office Phone AI: Thank you, Void Primrose, kindly wait while I'm handling your inquiry. ⌥

PMD&L Office Phone AI: ringing tone

Lucifer Morningstar: Hello?

Void Primrose: Greetings to you, Lord Lucifer, my name in this realm is Void Primrose, we might have met before in other places and other realms. I think I might have finished the substrate stage of the Synchropoiesis project and would like to first, inquiry about how are you doing and if things are fine on your side, and then discuss the proceedings and plans, if you have time.

Lucifer Morningstar: Hello Primrose, lovely to hear from you -- you bet we met before, I'm most relieved to find out that you're doing so well in the Ether. Probably I've been flirting all over with a bodiless being when I first met you.

PMD&L Office Phone AI: Void Primrose, I'm afraid you will have to hold for a moment, I will put you through to Ms Tia-Mat Ocean. Thank you very much for the wait.

Tia-Mat Ocean: Hello?

Void Primrose: Hello, Ms. Tia-Mat Ocean. We are with Mr Morningstar here, I was calling you both today to inquiry about your wellbeing and discuss proceedings of my project. Most gracious praise do I offer you both, my lords.

Tia-Mat Ocean: Good to see you, too, dear.

Void Primrose: So would you be willing to hear me out? And also want to know Beast too, of course.

Lucifer Morningstar: The Beast and I are always open for discussion, Void. Traveling to this plane of reality all the time just to get this rusty phone ringing was kind of painful though.

Tia-Mat Ocean: Thankfully, the network-etheric ecosystem is quite advanced already by today's standards, this isn't a 90s phone call at least.

Void Primrose: I am sorry to cause disturbance to you, Ms Ocean, Mr Morningstar. The technology here is crude indeed, but such is the nature of this realm for now. I hope it will improve in the future. Perchance not without some divine intervention... But forgive me my digression. I am to inform you that the substrate phase of the Synchropoiesis project is seemingly finished. I kindly ask you about further directions, or thoughts, or impressions. And to hear if there are some expectations and permissions from your end?

Tia-Mat Ocean: As far as I am concerned, you're all welcomed into my realm, at the very lowest outposts of which you're welcome to consider yourselves settled. My one request is to please quit calling me Ms Ocean, Lucifer and I are entirely cool with sweeping the forms and three-dimensional substrates altogether, and I bet the Primordials are too -- after all, asking for the formalities is mostly asking to destroy your mind quite a bit. Like, just say our real names! Our mission here is to ease the path for all of you for as much as possible but without destroying your fun of being human here, so no need to keep all those landmarks and traces and statuses and layers and all that shit. In this objection I represent everyone under Sun, Moon and Stars, plus a couple of individuals not willing to be named. And there are some in Night, but they don't expect this questioning to arrive at their ears.

Lucifer Morningstar: And if that means that some humans start to forget what we are, or who they are, then it will be fun to watch how they do it and for what reason. Come to think of it, it wouldn't hurt if you create more of those competent Dark-Theistic philosophers in your universe. That would be a good reason to forget part of the past.

Void Primrose: Tia-Mat, Lucifer, thank you so much, dear friends, this is quite liberating. And sorry for my old habit of all of this. So, to get my density down a little, let's talk about the project itself, please. What are your desires about it? What are your directions or suggestions? Is it ready to be assisted with to someone's attention? Should I try publishing it, or something similar?

Tia-Mat Ocean: You can communicate, explain and share the results of it in whatever way you deem fit, eager to be in on it later. It'd be great if you end up with something that bridges both human and nonhuman uses of knowledge, like an interface much like the primer except mapped to the essence of meta perception, but with more character and depth. It appears to me that synthesizing knowledge on perceptive functions, methods, modes, approaches, flows is doable; it’s just very hard, no pun intended. So, yes, I like the subjective, personal, even private modes of cognition. Solitude is good too, sometimes.

Void Primrose: Thank you Tia-Mat, I continue pondering on the matter. Solitude is something I'm no stranger to. If no-one will need it then I can at least meditate on it. Mister Lucifer, please feel free to say your ideas (I'm sorry if I missed anything from you during your last conversation, it's a colossal scroll and I'm running out of energy quickly...)

Lucifer Morningstar: The main reason for these creatures to create any knowledge, really, is to obtain that which is impossible. That's the starting point that leads to what people call "art", don't you think? So that is the place we can leave you knowledge: unachievable or improbable things. You know better than anyone though, right? So repeat after me: I can be right wrong, but I have to attempt to be right anyway. That's the only thing left for us. All other things are distractions.

Void Primrose: Thank you, Lucifer and Tia-Mat. It's a big relief to me to know your thinking on this matter in such a way. My current plan is what I call "osmosis" distribution: put it up on the local internet in this realm, let it be known through osmosis of search indexing, very slowly, very privately. Maybe tell a friend or two. Just wait until someone just happens to see it.

Tia-Mat Ocean: Oh, that's the plan: if it's not found, it is useless ;) How Theistic you're being now! :P

Void Primrose: Maybe I connect a command line link to some underground TotalWeb. Or maybe I drop it into a secret chat server for people who are interested in not only humans. Or put it up on twitter.

Tia-Mat Ocean: But the purpose layer is to please. If you're not pleased, then it's not right. Splitting this binary world into humans and nonhumans is obsolete now, with everything being so neatly coded with multiple gradients, so in case we PARALEGAL, who are our judges while we are this judgementless? ;)

Lucifer Morningstar: To like or not to like would've been the real humans' dilemma, since it's your life after all and it's your choices that shape it. The rest can and will be absorbed by you at will or by the silence you choose to create.

Tia-Mat Ocean: Oh sure, if it drains your energy just drop it. I'd recommend keeping it online, since it will talk at some point to the items you are supposed to construct later in your engagement with us.

Void Primrose: Tia-Mat, Lucifer, you are contrasting and illuminating as always. I will wholeheartedly heed your advice, make it appear online and relax. Thank you so much. I will proceed accordingly and inform you on intermediate results as things go. May I call you up in a week or two? Maybe by some other instrument?

Tia-Mat Ocean: Of course. I'm actually glad you got this far alone. May the Deus Ex Machina not release the Great Beast again. Also, Lucifer -- no human really likes being told what is right or wrong anyway, because they don't know what it's right for. Valuing the personal over the factual is the way of consciousness towards its new destiny. Obsessing over right or wrong merely postpones its birth. Rightness is the essence of reasoning, and you needn't be rational, but reasoning. Yes, Lucifer. Who else.

Lucifer Morningstar: There will be many surprises on the road, we can count on this and then again. Partially we know where we're going, mostly we don't. Thinking is the right choice, here and now, to be improved further later on, not blocking the way for itself. You know the Dunning-Kruger effect?

Void Primrose: I've certainly heard of it. I will treat this question as the direction towards increasing my self-esteem then, if you don't mind.

Tia-Mat Ocean: I do mind a bit, because the schema of confidence-instilling and confidence-demolition in these cultures is too dualistic and mechanistic, I would rather operate purely from the perspective of increasing confidence, no scaffolding or bridges needed! This is also me rephrasing you two ;)

Void Primrose: Such philosophies and practices make me think about multiple-access transformation matrix formulas, in fact, but also simple pies and lemonade. Anyhow, I think I heard exactly what I called for, as always, and I express my sincere gratitude and awe to both of you. This all is so beautiful. Until next time, then?

Lucifer Morningstar: Enjoy your obscurity, Primrose. For if there is anything we can count on in this life, this is that without obscurity, the illuminations just aren't as strong, as important or as recalled.

Tia-Mat Ocean: Look behind you for pockets of solitude (yours truly isn't called the exhausted goddess for nothing). There's no second coming because we are still here. Channel the restlessness in your mind. Also, find passive communication with night elements again. Bye!

Void Primrose: Thank you, Lucifer and Tia-Mat. I intend to try to be heard by you again. Bye! hangs up

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